Why McPalin is still in the running
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I received this essay in an email from a friend of mine recently. I think it explains things so damn well, there's no point in me trying to make the same point in my own words…
So, in case you were wondering why it is that Palin/McCain are still anywhere near the top of the polls, given their opponents' obvious qualifications, perhaps this will explain things for you:
This is Your Country on White Privilege
by Tim Wise, author of White Like Me
White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.
White privilege is when you can call yourself a "fuckin' redneck," like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll "kick their fuckin' ass," and talk about how you like to "shoot shit" for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.
White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.
White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you're "untested."
White privilege is being able to say that you support the words "under God" in the pledge of allegiance because "if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it's good enough for me," and not be immediately disqualified from holding office–since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 1950s–while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school requires it), is a dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.
White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you.
White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do–like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor–and people think you're being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college–you're somehow being mean, or even sexist.
White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because all of a sudden your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a "second look."
White privilege is being able to fire people who didn't support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt.
White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good church-going Christian, but if you're black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you're an extremist who probably hates America.
White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a "trick question," while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O'Reilly means you're dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.
White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism is, as Sarah Palin has referred to it a "light" burden.
And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters aren't sure about that whole "change" thing. Ya know, it's just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain.
White privilege is, in short, the problem.
And while we're on the subject of pointing out what damn well should be "The Obvious," here's a related email the same friend sent me just today:
What if Barack Obama had finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
What if McCain were still married to the first woman to whom he said "I do"?
What if Obama were the candidate who left his first wife after she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Michelle Obama were a wife who not only became addicted to pain killers, but acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain had graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama were a member of the "Keating 5"?
What if McCain were a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are now?
This reminds me of a joke someone cracked after New Orleans was hit by Katrina. "Look at those poor white families seeking food and shelter in their ruined city!" "Look at those lawless ethnic minorities looting!"
It's sad, but I can't say I'm surprised to learn that racial issues are STILL a factor in the election. Yeah, that e-mail is funny but it sure as hell puts things into perspective. Funny how stuff like that has been pushed under the rug until now…maybe they hoped you guys would forget or not notice entirely.
18th September 2008 at 2:12 pm | permalink |@Martin: Honestly, I didn't post it because it was funny … I'll have to re-read it, because it didn't strike me as funny at all (except maybe in a sort of, "HA! Hell YES!! Fucking RIGHT ON!!!" terrorist, fist-pumping sort of way).
I posted it, because I was hoping someone, who's not already a member of the choir I'm always preaching to, will stumble across it, and actually give the issue some thought.
18th September 2008 at 2:20 pm | permalink |White priviledge is running this country for 230 years, fucking it up, and still know that you will get to continue to run it, simply because the other is not white.
White priviledge is having the right to vote gauranteed the day the 19th amendment was ratified, instead of almost 100 years after the 14th and 15th amendments were ratified.
18th September 2008 at 2:58 pm | permalink |@6r00kl4n: Oh hell, if you wanted to generalize examples beyond the current presidential tickets, you could go on forever!
18th September 2008 at 3:52 pm | permalink |actually 6r00kl4n, your first example would be blanket hate for an entire race. I hope you feel better.
18th September 2008 at 3:52 pm | permalink |You know, part of the problem here is that a large percentage of the voting public is not qualified to select the leader of a county. This is a fundamental problem with a democratic system.
18th September 2008 at 4:05 pm | permalink |wow. you guys are right. white america ran this country right into the ground starting 230 years ago. i mean, this country started out as 13 small colonies and got NOTHING accomplished. in fact, those white dudes in charge didn't expand this country at all financially, geographically, or culturally. all they managed to accomplish was dominate a hemisphere, create a country where you can actually say whatever you want (which had not happened until WE did it), defend your right to say what you want, and kill each other to release the slaves that were being held within the borders of our country. and by the way, it was the REPUBLICAN white people who are so horrible that saved the african americans from the DEMOCRATS who were holding them as slaves.
and you are SO right about mccain's war experience and DECADES as a senator shouldn't be seen as making him as a more able leader. i mean barack has experience with the nation as a whole. like being a senator for less than a year. and… (at least according to your post) being black is also something that makes him qualified to lead because white people get everything they ever wanted in a hand basket delivered off the back of a slave. yeah, that's exactly how it works.
PS: chicago is known for its political corruption, the community organization that barack did was to go door to door and get people to join a black union, and isolationism has been a policy of USA since it's founding. and kavan wolfe, your right. let's just tell the people of america who's in charge. kinda like how those dictators and monarchs get to. that's exactly what we should do.
18th September 2008 at 5:36 pm | permalink |I was actually thinking about forwarding the first one to you (if you haven't hidden your email address that is, I haven't checked), but for some reason I got a weird feeling like it would not be well received. I guess I'm glad I was wrong though, as it is such an interesting angle for viewing the race. I'm glad you've published it to share with all of your other readers.
18th September 2008 at 7:28 pm | permalink |@Kavan Wolfe: I wrote a short paper when I was in high school about my ideal form of democracy for the US. Basically, I was expanding on an idea that Robert Heinlein suggested in his sci-fi book Starship Troopers (much much deeper than the movie, don't judge) where only those who had preformed at least a certain amount of civic duty (I chose 4 years, if I remember right Heinlein proposed 2), which could range from military service to a general clean up like job. Basically the point was that voting and having a say in the government should only be done by those who were really willing to help out others and act selflessly. And even if they were just pretending and doing it so that they could vote, at least this would encourage altruistic service.
If you want to read Wikipedia's summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers#Politics
18th September 2008 at 7:38 pm | permalink |[Once again, a disclaimer is necessary. I'm an Obama supporter. Dog knows, even with Biden playing Rectal Rooter, he has to be better than McPalin. That being said, this was a bunch of PC rhetoric and propaganda and you should be ashamed for posting it. It's beneath you to profer unfounded drivel, even if it happens to support the side of “goodness and light.”]
White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen…
[Could someone cite some examples of this regular typification? I took some data from http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/state_pregnancy_trends.pdf and http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html. Curiously, whites (80.2% of the population) represented 44% of the teen pregnancies, while blacks (12.8% of the population) represented 30% and Latinos (what is that capitalized?) 26%. Coincidence? Statistical bias/anomaly? Or basis for generalization? And how the hell is this “white privilege”? It's nothing but political spin. Don't I remember Obama asking for his kids (rightfully) to be kept out of the race? I can say with some confidence that if his 17yo daughter got some dough shoved in her oven, he'd play the “personal matter” card, too.]
White privilege is when you can call yourself a "fuckin' redneck,"…
[Could someone tell me what's wrong with being a fuckin' redneck? Could someone tell me what's wrong with kicking the ass of someone who messes (I'm taking “messes” to mean something along the lines of “harms”) with you? Recall Teddy Roosevelt's position, “Walk softly and carry a big stick.” An interesting side note...many believe that phrase to be of West African origin. I doubt this kid has mastered the “walk softly” part, but what's wrong with the big stick? “...rather than a thug”? Could someone please google “define: thug”. Newsflash, folks...he *is* the all-American boy! That's what boys do by nature: they posture and destroy things and try to get their sticks wet.]
White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years…
[“No one questions”? Aren't you questioning, Deary? I certainly questioned. Everyone who didn't question, flame me. Could someone cite some examples of the “unfit/AA” comment?]
White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor…
[That doesn't even make sense. Not being laughed at (by whom?) for a laughable assertion is white privilege? Trying to find some reality to fit those thoughts, comparison of experience has pretty much vanished from the race since Palin entered it; Obama wasn't being compared to Sarah Barracuda.]
White privilege is being able to say that you support the words "under God"…
[Retard. Is she over 35? Born in the US? Yes? Then she's qualified. If people are dumb enough to vote for her, that's democracy in action. Honestly, I don't know what that second thing about reading people their rights is all about.]
White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you.
[I know two old black guys who are armed to the teeth, one 21yo black guy who just asked me how to get his carry permit, one mulatto ex-state trooper who won't go near a gun, one Latino woman whose home I recommend you don't enter unannounced, and various others that cover the rest of the spectrum. I'm not scared of any of them. Why are you? And what does it have to do with white privilege?]
White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member…
[Could someone read the Declaration of Independence? Testing the waters of secession is arguably your most patriotic duty. And I seem to remember a whole shitload of people questioning this...like you. Surprise, surprise, Republicans painted the Democrat's wife as being disrespectful because she didn't leave her kids, pay lotsa-dollars, and fly from Chicago to New York. How is this white privilege?]
White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers…
[How is this white privilege? And who's giving out this privilege? Do I have to wait in line or setup monthly payments or something?]
White privilege is being able to convince white women…
[Err, that's stupid white women, not white privilege. Do you think that Obama isn't enjoying the lion's share of the black vote largely because he's black (well, that and the fact that the overwhelming majority of US blacks are Democrats, right?)?]
[I'm gonna stop here because, frankly, I'm bored and aggravated, but I'd like to leave you with one final thought...what about the “white privilege” of speaking for everyone else that's being exercised by the white guy who wrote this in the first place?]
Thanks,
18th September 2008 at 9:31 pm | permalink |Chaz
The "white privilege" that the author describes is not something that any informed Obama supporter is granting McCain-Palin, it's coming from the uninformed McCain-Palin supporters who are basing their opinions and how they vote not on actual policies and facts, but on misconceptions and propaganda. It makes perfect sense that you don't necessarily see where the author is coming from, because as you said in your intro, you are an Obama supporter, and clearly one more informed on the issues (not to mention reality) than the stereotypical conservative voter.
I have no idea the type of people that you are around, I'd like to avoid making assumptions, but I can tell you from my experience (living in Texas, not exactly known for being too liberal, huh?), a lot of the authors points are dead on.
18th September 2008 at 9:54 pm | permalink |@deeesseee
Born and raised in Philadelphia area. Phila was more than 60% black last time I noticed.
If what you said is true, then it's a gross mistake to call it *white* privilege. Maybe "you're-smarter-than-me privilege" or "sheople privilege" or "my-non-existent-God-thinks-for-me privilege".
Any specifics on those "dead on" points?
Thanks,
18th September 2008 at 10:01 pm | permalink |Chaz
It's "white privilege" in that McCain-Palin are excused for all their questionable actions and the actions of those associated with them, while Obama continues to receive criticism over minor things trying to find connections to typical black stereotypes.
Am I misunderstanding you?
And in response to one of your earlier points:
18th September 2008 at 10:37 pm | permalink |"Could someone read the Declaration of Independence? Testing the waters of secession is arguably your most patriotic duty."
Sure, I understand what you are saying, founding fathers were succeeding from English government, therefore it's hypocritical to criticize questions of succession because by extension that would be criticizing the Founding Father's decision. BUT, do you not remember why Lincoln made the decision of using military force against the Confederacy?
Yes, you're misunderstanding. I'm saying it has nothing to do with anyone being white. It has everything to do with people being voluntarily-blind sheep. McPalin are excused (by their supporters) not because they're white, but because calling them on their actions/opinions would be tantamount to heresy.
I wasn't actually referring to the fact that we were breaking away from England, but to this:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
I have absolutely no problem with criticizing anyone, including the Founding Fathers, but I do give a lot of weight to what they had to say.
No, I can't say I remember Lincoln's reasoning.
Thanks,
18th September 2008 at 11:10 pm | permalink |Chaz
"White privilege is when you can call yourself a "fuckin' redneck," like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll "kick their fuckin' ass," and talk about how you like to "shoot shit" for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug."
No. We don't call that 'All American boy', we call that 'White trash'.
19th September 2008 at 5:37 am | permalink |@Deeesseee,
I've read Starship Troopers. Good book. Heinlein is basing his hypothetical political system on the following premise: willingness to serve in the military is a good measure of one's ability to govern and to choose who governs. If I had to pick ten people to whom I would give power over my life and country, NONE of them would have anything to do with the military. I would be looking for pacifists and people who don't want power. But that's just my opinion.
19th September 2008 at 5:50 am | permalink |@grnidone (or is that git'r'done?)
19th September 2008 at 7:57 am | permalink |You should go see a little more of the country.
@capn0jack: Have you watched/read/followed the news media coverage of this race at all? I mean, seriously. Do you remember the uproar over Obama's church ties? Have you heard ANY major media coverage of the whackjob church Palin used to attend in Wasilla?
Have you heard ANY mainstream media uproar over McCain being one of the Keating Five (do you remember the whole Keating Five/Savings & Loan scandal?)? The mainstream media isn't questioning McCain's moral fiber over something he actually did, but Obama is questioned because of things other people (like his old pastor) said?
Palin's husband is affiliated with a seccessionist political party, but nobody questions her patriotism … Michelle Obama, on the other hand? Her college thesis paper, and one offhand comment mean her husband is somehow un-American.
That's what this piece is about: The media coverage of this election has been ultra-critical of Obama, for every possible little detail they could dig up about anything … compared to Palin/McCain's media coverage, which has largely glossed over much more serious issues … and then contrast it all to some common attitudes held by many white Americans regarding race issues …
…move to a predominantly white small town in the South or West, and re-read this in a few years. I bet you'll "get it" then.
19th September 2008 at 1:59 pm | permalink |"Heinlein is basing his hypothetical political system on the following premise: willingness to serve in the military is a good measure of one's ability to govern and to choose who governs."
I was pondering that, too. I'm also not so sure that people who want to get paid to shoot stuff (h'yuck) are that much more qualified than people who just shoot stuff on their own time…
19th September 2008 at 4:39 pm | permalink |Why is it okay for you to be a racist,but its not okay for me to have an opinion. Here is a thought, quit fucking crying and do something to change the image that the American public sees? Its amazing that press who is attacking Palin for everything from being a woman to being a bad mother, is the same press that presents blacks as lawless. So dont hate me for being white, hate yourself for not standing up for yourself. Nothing worse than a fucking crybaby bitch.
19th September 2008 at 6:15 pm | permalink |@Whitey: 1. I didn't write either of the pieces I reprinted here. Polish up your reading comprehension skills.
19th September 2008 at 6:24 pm | permalink |2. Tim Wise's piece isn't racist. Neither is the anonymous piece that follows it.
3. Tim Wise is a white guy. Do your homework.
4. I'm a white woman. And I'm not whining … you are.
5. The press isn't attacking Palin for being a woman. What planet do you live on?!
6. You're an idiot.
White privilege is freaking awesome! Everyone at the country club agrees…
19th September 2008 at 9:53 pm | permalink |@Kavan & grimbles - In all fairness, military service can develop other qualities besides a thirst for power, and a raging hard-on for shooting shit. Discipline, responsibility, respect, courage, and in some cases a better understanding of the good/bad of government operations. I'm not sayin this makes a world leader, but when it comes to the right to vote, I'd take a person with these qualities over a person who grew up learning to milk the fuckin system any day of the week.
20th September 2008 at 10:19 am | permalink |@Rick: Ah yes, the old "slam on the poor people" gambit. Lord knows a kid with a disabled (or just plain fucked up) parent, who's had to deal with the public assistance program while they were growing up, obviously ought to be condemned and counted out of public life because their parent(s) was/weren't affluent enough by your standards.
Someone of above-average intelligence, with functional critical thinking skills, who has been through either the military or the welfare system is in a better position to understand what's fucked up with our current gov't than most folks who've been through neither.
Apparently you were lucky enough to be born to parents who weren't fuckups/disabled/poor-for-whatever-reason. Good for you, we're all so very proud.
20th September 2008 at 2:01 pm | permalink |alphabitch - if you were taught good Home Ec in the public school system, you wouldnt have so much time on your hands to ramble online, YOU WOULD BE BEING A GOOD WIFE - not a mouthy biatch online! :P
Go wash some dishes or dust or something useful!
20th September 2008 at 5:11 pm | permalink |@alpha - Actually my dad was paralyzed when I was 7 and collected disability until the day he died from alcoholism (liver) when he was 48. We were not a wealthy family by any standards.
I never mentioned the poor or the disabled. I never mentioned condemning anyone for any reason. I never even mentioned taking away anyone's voting rights. My point was merely that the military can/does help develop some admirable qualities. Qualities which can make for a well rounded individual. Qualities which (IMO) would make for a more qualified voter than the lady who keeps having kids like her uterus is a fucking pezz dispenser. Even when she has no viable means of supporting the kids she already has (other than milking the system). Yes, I know it's not the kids fault, and yes, I think the system should bend over backwards to help the kids over come the shitty hand they were dealt. Now before you go jumping to conclusions (again), I'm not picking on women. They're plenty of examples of people who abuse the system. I know them personally. IMO were getting into an area which belongs in another post.
"Apparently you were lucky enough to be born to parents who weren't fuckups/disabled/poor-for-whatever-reason. Good for you, we're all so very proud."
WTF?
20th September 2008 at 5:14 pm | permalink |@Whitey: I tried doing the "wife" thing. I was lousy at it. :-) But I appreciate the career suggestion! (Oh, and I just finished cleaning up the kitchen, thanks.)
What's your excuse for having so much time on your hands?
@Rick: Yup, you're right, I totally misinterpreted your comment …
In my experience, the number of people who abuse the social services system are so small, it's really a non-issue in any sort of "impact on the real world" sense. The people who abuse any financial/corporate system for personal gain end up doing a lot more damage to our economy than welfare moochers ever could … such as the folks who abused the mortgage lending system for their own personal gain, for instance.
Generally when I hear someone throwing around phrases like "milking the system," it's usually from someone who knows abso-fucking-lutely nothing about how the system actually works … hence the mistaken assumption behind my last sentence.
20th September 2008 at 6:43 pm | permalink |I've watched quite a bit of it…what does it have to do with white privilege? Hmm, let's see, do the big-money Reps own all the media outlets? Yes? Could it be that they encouraged attacks at Obama and stifled attacks at the MILF and McBush? It seems to me that the media's been nothing but a flurry of crap about the MILF's dubious qualifictions since she was bugger…err…chosen. I think I heard the thing about her husband's political affiliation on CNN while I was sitting in a Dunkin' Donuts the day after she was picked (I could be wrong about that). This is the first I've heard about M. Obama's thesis paper and offhand comment.
A predominantly white small town in the South or West? You mean an ultra-conservative Bible-belt area? Oh, yeah, they wouldn't spin everything toward McPalin, I'm sure.
Thanks,
20th September 2008 at 7:31 pm | permalink |Chaz
HEY WHITEY I don't give a rat's ass about a gun toating, wife beating, beer guzzling, half witted, inbread, Republican like you anyway. So why don't you jump into your bondo covered
21st September 2008 at 6:50 am | permalink |57 chevy truck and roll your fat smelly ass outta here? k? thanks
Come on, aren't we all Americans?? Why the fuck are you playing the bleeding heart role for the blacks (African Americans). Why don't you stop swinging from the their nut sacks and look at the real issues!! When Obama wins this election, is it still going to be a racist America. McCain has alot of experience and yes he has a better resume. Why wouldn't McCain still be in the running. You folks got nothing better to do than complain about the country you live in. Maybe you should try another country to complain about!!!
21st September 2008 at 9:45 am | permalink |@capn0jack: You never heard about Michelle's "for the first time in my life, I'm really proud of my country" remark? Wow.
As for the media discussing Palin's "dubious qualifications," they couldn't very well completely ignore the issue, or they couldn't even pretend they were doing their jobs.
And the point isn't that none of it is mentioned, the point is the extent to which any of it is held up as "proof" of a person's qualifications, or lack thereof. They discuss Palin's "dubious qualifications," rather than saying, "she was only chosen to win the election, not because she's qualified to actually do anything in office," while Obama, who spent years in state legislative service, was a constitutional law professor, and has served two years in national office, is "untested," for instance.
Is it more a racial issue than a side effect of corporate media control? Are those two issues actually wholly separate?
21st September 2008 at 3:52 pm | permalink |@SOB: Better resumé? How so? Because he's been in Washington so long the good ol' boy network owns his balls? What exactly is better about his resumé?
21st September 2008 at 3:54 pm | permalink |HEY SOB I'll rehash this and dumb it down for you also fuckhead. We don't want another George W. Bush. And AGAIN I don't give a rat's ass about a gun toating, wife beating, beer guzzling, half witted, inbread, Republican like you anyway. So why don't you jump into your bondo covered
21st September 2008 at 4:17 pm | permalink |57 chevy truck and roll your fat smelly ass outta here? k? thanks
@Rick, I'd like a leader who believes that killing people is wrong. Period. No exceptions. You don't find those people in the military.
22nd September 2008 at 1:56 pm | permalink |@Kavan: Valid point, although I can't say I'd want a leader who wasn't willing to kill people under certain circumstances.
One who viewed it as a very-rarely-necessary and to-be-avoided-if-at-all-possible evil would be good though.
22nd September 2008 at 2:47 pm | permalink |"I'd like a leader who believes that killing people is wrong"
24th September 2008 at 6:04 am | permalink |"One who viewed it as a very-rarely-necessary and to-be-avoided-if-at-all-possible evil would be good though"
These seem to be pretty much the same thing as far as I can see. Killing is wrong. But it's a lesser of evils thing a lot of the time. Other times it's a Republican thing.
whatzit tooya - You have a bucket full of brains dont you? I know, why dont you repeat the same thing over and over in every one of your comments? Never mind, I see, you already do. Your problem is you are angry because obviously your WHORE mother didnt love you enough. You take the rejection of your slut mother out on the rest of us, because obviously, your failure to be a child that could be loved is my fault. Next time, I pray that abortion stays legal long enough to wipe your family out of the gene pool. :) Have a nice day, prick.
25th September 2008 at 5:20 pm | permalink |@ Whitey: Does your mom know you're using the computer without her permission?
Seriously.
If you want to argue a point, then present your point. You don't even have to do it eloquently–as you amply demonstrated thus far.
But showing up and prattling on about whores, people's mothers, etc. is just tediously, mind-numbingly idiotic. Period. The least you could do is insult people with some sort of style, creativity, or panache.
For example, your comment, distilled to its essential parts, is basically 40 spider monkeys in a gunny sack trying to fuck a football.
You prick.
29th September 2008 at 3:11 pm | permalink |I'd have said 39…
29th September 2008 at 6:36 pm | permalink |@Whitey: Congratulations! I didn't think anyone here was capable of making whatzit's comments look cogent and articulate. But you? 100% WIN!
@Becca & grimbles: I think using monkeys in the first place is overrating things. How about 29 gerbils in a flour sack, trying to fuck a golf ball?
1st October 2008 at 11:21 pm | permalink |How about a Kiwi Fruit… cos the end result sure ain't pretty.
2nd October 2008 at 12:49 am | permalink |@grimbles: Awww. Poor kiwi! I like kiwis!
2nd October 2008 at 1:35 am | permalink |An over-ripe banana then.
2nd October 2008 at 6:22 pm | permalink |@grimbles: That works. :-)
3rd October 2008 at 7:27 am | permalink |