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Once again, Doonesbury effortlessly combines incriminating facts with the perfect touch of snide humor. Republicans may preach fiscal responsibility, but take a look at where the national debt came from …
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That's great lol
7th April 2008 at 3:34 am | permalink |:-)
7th April 2008 at 4:05 am | permalink |Bangs head on wall.
;-)
7th April 2008 at 8:22 am | permalink |What I love is they say it's us "bleeding heart Liberals" that are the irresponsible jackasses who want to spend, spend, spend.
Sounds more to me like it's the money grubbing warmongers.
7th April 2008 at 3:09 pm | permalink |@amanda senior: Yeah, what people don't seem to get is that "tax and spend liberal" means they're making sure they HAVE money to spend … the left really needs to come up with some good catchprases like that. "Charge card Republicans" or something.
7th April 2008 at 3:34 pm | permalink |Makes one sick eh.
Well either way you go you have bads and goods. What we really fucking need is a revolution to teach dumb ass politicians like this that they are accountable for there actions. Sadly I don't think America has it in her anymore.
If she did I would have thought Bush for sure would have brought it out.
7th April 2008 at 4:48 pm | permalink |I've ALWAYS wondered why anyone but rich assholes vote repub. I guess the only answer is willingness to believe lies. ex: religion
7th April 2008 at 5:53 pm | permalink |Huckabeeee,
7th April 2008 at 6:38 pm | permalink |the dude to be,
the man for me,
the bumblebee…
the ironman
7th April 2008 at 7:04 pm | permalink |and what a plan
to keep the man
from what he need
to be
free, to be,
a bumblebee…
@raven: Yeah, the sheer magnitude of the hypocrisy is kind of stunning, isn't it?
@abestar: I'm not sure myself. I mean, I (dimly) remember a time when the core values of the Republican party were something I could understand and even partially agree with … but they've let themselves go straight off the deep end in their chase after the Bible-thumping, gun happy, redneck crowd.
@bill: Ooh. Poetry? Just for me? hee hee!
8th April 2008 at 2:12 am | permalink |Spot ON!
8th April 2008 at 7:10 am | permalink |HA HA HA!
8th April 2008 at 11:03 am | permalink |I Zergon,
You foolish beings believe anything I tell you so that you elect me as your leader so that I can rape and pillage your world and leave you with the bill!
Foolish hoo-mans!
Har! Har! Har!
8th April 2008 at 11:34 am | permalink |Whose responsibility is it to pass a budget? Congresses. What percentage of the 2 decades of Bushes and Reagan had Republican congresses? A minority. Idiot liberals.
8th April 2008 at 2:29 pm | permalink |@zergon: Shit. I knew there was something wrong with that guy. ;-)
@idiot: Read the comic again, buddy. I know it's complicated, but it did say "out of 19 budgets SUBMITTED …" And last I checked, it WAS the President who does the submission, no? Point being (again, as the comic said), they didn't even TRY to balance the budget … they were SUBMITTING unbalanced, debt-ridden piece-of-shit budget proposals to begin with.
Moron.
8th April 2008 at 2:40 pm | permalink |> And last I checked, it WAS the
> President who does the submission,
> no?
Yes and No.
Quoth Wikipedia:
"The Budget of the United States Government is a federal document that the President submits to the U.S. Congress. The President's budget submission outlines funding recommendations for the next fiscal year, which begins on October 1st. Congressional decisions are governed by rules and legislation regarding the federal budget process. House and Senate Budget committees each develop budget resolutions, which provide spending limits for the House and Senate Appropriations Committees' subcommittees, which then approve individual appropriations bills to allocate funding to various federal programs. After Congress approves an appropriations bill, it is sent to the President, who may sign it into law, or may veto it. A vetoed bill is sent back to Congress, which can pass it into law with a two-thirds majority in each chamber. Congress may also combine all or some appropriations bills into an omnibus reconciliation bill. In addition, the President may request and the Congress may pass supplemental appropriations bills or emergency supplemental appropriations bills."
In short: The President asks for money, and then Congress tells him what he can and/or cannot have — and for what. He can only do so within the context of being required to "faithfully execute" the laws of the United States… as passed & controlled by Congress.
This is a convoluted issue and while the Republican majority under both Bushes is at fault, this is primarily due to uni-partisan control of both houses of Congress and the Presidency. That's only ever happened, really, under Republicans.
The best budgets have always come from so-called "do-nothing Congresses" — ones where neither party is in control and the party is out of step with the President.
8th April 2008 at 4:06 pm | permalink |@redditor: Thanks for the details … :-) My point (and Trudeau's) was basically that the Presidents' original budget proposals were unbalanced. Which, coming from a party that screeches about fiscal responsibility all the time, is hypocritical as hell.
And yes, it was Republican Pres./Republican Congress situations where the deficit grew the most … because Congress went with the recommendation (yet another level of hypocrisy).
Overall point being that 'liberals are idiots' was the idiot in his comment. ;-)
8th April 2008 at 4:15 pm | permalink |lol @alphas comment to idiot.
and holy shit thats a lot of money.
8th April 2008 at 4:22 pm | permalink |The fact is, that both wings of the Ruling Party increase federal spending. The last time it actually decreased was right after WW2, during the Truman and Eisenhower administrations. Furthermore, ALL spending bills originate in the house of Representatives, and the president's only power over spending is to ASK the congress for money. Want to know who's responsible for wasting our money? Look up your congressman's voting record.
8th April 2008 at 5:42 pm | permalink |@some guy: Ah well. I guess the fact that Clinton balanced the budget, while the two Presidents before him, and the one after him racked up 70% of our current national debt is just a big coincidence then.
8th April 2008 at 5:49 pm | permalink |Clearly, this comic strip is poking fun of democrats who can never get their facts straight. The fact of the matter is that the Democrats are to blame for the $60 Trillion (look it up, it's not $10 Trillion) deficit.
The Democrats hid the actual deficit in order to sway public opinion.
8th April 2008 at 7:07 pm | permalink |If you knew what was really on the minds of the present Can-didates now would it change your 2008 vote? The problem with hindsight is we never realized it until it kicks us in the butt.
http://thecomedynet.com
8th April 2008 at 8:56 pm | permalink |we may truly need a revolution
8th April 2008 at 8:57 pm | permalink |@ all: Just a quick FYI on the federal budgetary process.
1. The President compiles budget requests from all departments falling under executive branch–including Dick Cheney–and then submits his annual budget request to Congress. Note: The executive branch is responsible for the operation of the government, hence the term "exec"-utive (as in "execute").
2. Congress reviews the President's budget request.
3. Congress can approve or reject the President's budget request. Congress can also modify it somewhat in terms of funding, but cannot add/remove budget items. Instead of removing an item, budget battles are usually centered on Congress refusing to fund a budget request.
4. Once approved by Congress, the budget is submitted back to the President who can sign it into law or return it to Congress to request changes to funding.
@ all (esp. Mr. Idiot):
Another item the die-hard GOoPers may want to keep in mind: Reagan was a vocal advocate of deficit spending and trickle-down economics. The idea being that by spending money we didn't have to infuse the economy, we would see greater spending by industry and those in higher economic brackets which would then "trickle down" to the lower economic strata in the form of higher wages, more capital investments, and the like.
In a stagnant economy with high inflation, this is not necessarily a bad idea as a short-term stimulus. However, the biggest problem we are currently facing is a relatively active economy, stagnant wages (relatively stagnant for the last decade), and adjustments in the credit and housing markets.
Spending money we don't have to fix problems made by spending money we don't have is a recipe for economic disaster. … and Bush (current R-Tard in office) is the cook in the kitchen.
So before these so-called conservatives go ranting on about Congressional spending habits, they may want to edjumicate themselves in how government really functions (including founding constitutional principles) and get a working knowledge of history (say the last 3-4 decades) that includes things like "facts."
9th April 2008 at 6:56 am | permalink |@becca: "may want to edjumicate themselves in how government really functions (…) and get a working knowledge of history (…) that includes things like 'facts.'"
But that's so much HARDER than repeating what they hear on Fox News!
9th April 2008 at 2:57 pm | permalink |Damned borrow and spend conservatives.
11th April 2008 at 12:03 pm | permalink |@barrybham: That's the first catchphrase I thought of, but it just doesn't sound quite negative enough … having trouble coming up with a better one though.
11th April 2008 at 4:32 pm | permalink |ohyeah, poetry for the lady.
12th April 2008 at 3:14 am | permalink |are you living in alaska? I just wondered because i've lived most of my life in northern norway. How cold does it get there? I remember days we had -30 celcius. The scool had to close at that temperature, he he…
@Alpha,
Use a Charleston Heston voice with your internal monologue and repeat the following:
"Take your paws off of me you damn dirty conservative ape!"
In the background imagine a looming image of the president that slowly molds into a chimpanzee (internet meme style) while an allegro legato choral peice plays overtop singing "he only spends the monies, because he cares..He was happy when they mentioned…the laize-fair.."..Then a strong barratone accapella "He wants some fiscal cotton-candy!".
12th April 2008 at 7:43 am | permalink |@bill: Yes, I live near Fairbanks. It got down past -40 for a couple of weeks this winter … I think the schools only close when it's -40 or colder here. If they closed at -30ºC (-22ºF), kids wouldn't be able to go to school for most of the winter. :-)
@autodidact: I was with you until the chorus came in. hehehe
12th April 2008 at 4:14 pm | permalink |@Alpha
I was struggling to come up with something to rhyme with laize-fair (sp?). I just couldn't get over the image of the president thinking it was like a county fair with cotton candy and kids rides.
13th April 2008 at 7:34 am | permalink |@harry - you fucking cunt. Read this:
13th April 2008 at 9:04 am | permalink |http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/04/13/tax.wrap/index.html
Then tell me its ALL the democrat's fault.
@autodidact: "lassez faire" actually. :-)
That is a great image. lol
@michael cazabon: The stupefying thing is that facts don't seem to have any actual effect on die-hard Republicans.
It's really amazing.
13th April 2008 at 10:06 pm | permalink |Um, laissez faire, not to put too fine a point on it.
14th April 2008 at 1:33 pm | permalink |And for what's it's worth, I think French is a ridiculous language. How the hell do their schoolchildren learn to spell? Duperret, Perrier, etc. all end with that schwa.
I like German. If you can spell it, you can pronounce it. And vice-versa.
14th April 2008 at 1:40 pm | permalink |@barry bham: Dammit. The online dictionary fucked me on that one. hehe
And I don't know about German … It took me YEARS to get the ie/ei thing straight in English again after taking German for a few years.
14th April 2008 at 3:01 pm | permalink |